{"id":7530,"date":"2019-03-09T10:00:02","date_gmt":"2019-03-09T09:00:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/?p=7530"},"modified":"2019-03-08T19:50:43","modified_gmt":"2019-03-08T18:50:43","slug":"52ancestors-at-the-courthouse","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/52ancestors-at-the-courthouse\/","title":{"rendered":"#52ancestors: At the courthouse"},"content":{"rendered":"

I am one week behind with this contribution to the 52 ancestors in 52 weeks challenge, but here we go!<\/p>\n

Looking for vital information on my Great-Grandmother Karoline Elise Olsen (born 1872 in \u00c5lesund, M\u00f8re og Romsdal county) I found her having left the state church on June 10th, 1898. The reason for her leaving the church is to get a civil marriage to B\u00e5rd Hansen Eidhammer (born 1872 in Tresfjord, M\u00f8re og Romsdal county). The minister has even offered to waive his fee to marry them. This is not an option as traveling to Molde from \u00c5lesund, one night in a hotel and the travel back will cost much more than the minister’s fee.<\/p>\n

This is the actual church book record. Karoline is no 5 1898:<\/p>\n

SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerb\u00f8ker og f\u00f8dselsregistre – M\u00f8re og Romsdal, 529\/L0457: Parish register (official) no. 529A07, 1894-1903, p. 281
\nQuick link: https:\/\/www.digitalarkivet.no\/kb20050413040253<\/a><\/p>\n

Searching the church book section “civil married” for \u00c5lesund I find a reference to a note from the magistrate in Molde telling that cobbler B\u00e5rd Gerhard Hansen Eidhammer has married girl Karoline Elise Olsen on Jun 14th, 1898. The note gives their birth-, and confirmation dates and the names of their parents. It tells that the bride and groom are not related. The witnesses are Karoline’s cousin “Fire chief in Molde Oluf Mathisen” and Merchant in Molde Ole Rypdal. Ole Rypdal was from Tresfjord and probably a friend of B\u00e5rd from his youth.<\/p>\n

Here is the actual record. B\u00e5rd and Karoline are no 4:<\/p>\n

SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerb\u00f8ker og f\u00f8dselsregistre – M\u00f8re og Romsdal, 529\/L0457: Parish register (official) no. 529A07, 1894-1903, p. 337
\nQuick link: https:\/\/www.digitalarkivet.no\/kb20050413040300<\/a><\/p>\n

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Then, about a month later July 16th, Karoline again joins the state church!?<\/p>\n

SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerb\u00f8ker og f\u00f8dselsregistre – M\u00f8re og Romsdal, 529\/L0457: Parish register (official) no. 529A07, 1894-1903, p. 274
\nQuick link: https:\/\/www.digitalarkivet.no\/kb20050413040247<\/a><\/p>\n

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This whole story puzzled me.<\/p>\n

First of all; Why did Karoline leave the state church? This question was answered when I read up on the laws that governed marriages in Norway at that time. Based on the law about marriages of 1863, two persons who both belonged to the state church had to be married in the church. However, in cases where one or both of the couple were not a member of the state church, they could be married by the magistrate. Before marriage in the church could take place, an announcement (lysning) had to be made. Earlier this announcement had to be made three times from the pulpit in the church. In the late 1800s, this was reduced to one time. A civil marriage could take place without this announcement as long as the couple had witnesses who confirmed that the couple was eligible to marry.<\/p>\n

I should add that this is how I understand the rules from a rather lengthy and hard to read discussion in the book “Indstilling til lov om egteskapets stiftelse og kirkelig velsignelse<\/em>” by “The church commission 1908” Published in Christiania in 1909.<\/p>\n

So, why would Karoline and B\u00e5rd want to get married fast? The most obvious reason would be if Karoline was pregnant. However, their first born, my Grandfather Martin Nicolai was not born until May 19th, 1901. They may, of course, have had a false alarm or a miscarriage. While having a child before nine months after the  wedding was somewhat shameful, it happened in every family.<\/p>\n

Perhaps didn’t Karoline’s parents Markus and Nicoline Olsen condone the marriage. After all, B\u00e5rd came from a cotter family in Tresfjord and Markus was the owner of a shipyard (though a small one) in \u00c5lesund. Perhaps they wanted their daughter married to someone further up the social ladder? Nothing suggesting this has ever been talked about in the family and Markus Olsen was the witness to his Grandson Martin’s baptism in 1901.<\/p>\n

The third possibility is that by getting a civil marriage in Molde, they wanted a low-key wedding. Getting from \u00c5lesund to Molde today it is a two-hour car ride, including a ferry. In 1898 this journey was probably undertaken by steamship from \u00c5lesund to Molde. The steamship calling at every little village along the way, this trip must have taken the better part of a day.<\/p>\n

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The courthouse in Molde. The building still stands today looking pretty much the same. Used by permission from Romsdalsmuseet<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

I guess we’ll never know the reason for Karoline and B\u00e5rd’s actions. A funny thing though; The book I referred to above mentions that many couples did this, with no explanation as to why.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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My grandfather Martin was born May 19. 1901 in the town of \u00c5lesund, M\u00f8re og Romsdal county.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "52 ancestors in 52 weeks"","block_context":{"text":"52 ancestors in 52 weeks","link":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/category\/genealogy-general\/52-ancestors-in-52-weeks\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hiking.jpg?fit=800%2C800&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hiking.jpg?fit=800%2C800&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hiking.jpg?fit=800%2C800&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hiking.jpg?fit=800%2C800&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":2597,"url":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/a-photo-treasure-by-coincidence\/","url_meta":{"origin":7530,"position":2},"title":"A photo treasure by coincidence.","author":"Martin Roe Eidhammer","date":"September 18, 2016","format":false,"excerpt":"I received a question about an old picture presented in a Facebook group. When I visited the website I also took a look at the other pictures there. I was in for a big surprise. My friend and distant relative Joyce asked me about a picture she had found\u00a0on\u00a0Tresfjord Museum's\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "Historical photos"","block_context":{"text":"Historical photos","link":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/category\/history\/historical-photos\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Markenhuset-Tresfjord.jpg?fit=1200%2C806&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Markenhuset-Tresfjord.jpg?fit=1200%2C806&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Markenhuset-Tresfjord.jpg?fit=1200%2C806&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Markenhuset-Tresfjord.jpg?fit=1200%2C806&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Markenhuset-Tresfjord.jpg?fit=1200%2C806&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":5803,"url":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/52ancestors-longevity\/","url_meta":{"origin":7530,"position":3},"title":"#52ancestors: Longevity","author":"Martin Roe Eidhammer","date":"January 21, 2018","format":false,"excerpt":"Here is my contribution to the #52ancestors challenge. This week the theme is Longevity This week I want to introduce you to my 2G-Grandfather Markus Olsen Moldenes. He was born november 20. 1833 on the cotter's place Moldeneset by\u00a0the small town of Molde on the north-west coast of Norway.His parents\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "52 ancestors in 52 weeks"","block_context":{"text":"52 ancestors in 52 weeks","link":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/category\/genealogy-general\/52-ancestors-in-52-weeks\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hiking.png?fit=800%2C800&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hiking.png?fit=800%2C800&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hiking.png?fit=800%2C800&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hiking.png?fit=800%2C800&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":5729,"url":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/52ancestors-my-favourite-picture\/","url_meta":{"origin":7530,"position":4},"title":"#52ancestors : My favourite picture","author":"Martin Roe Eidhammer","date":"January 14, 2018","format":false,"excerpt":"Here is\u00a0this weeks\u00a0contribution to the 52 ancestors in 52 weeks Challenge.The theme for this week is \"My favourite photo\". It is hard to pick one particular favourite. I ended up sharing this one of Tresfjord,\u00a0in M\u00f8re og Romsdal county, Norway. This is where quite a lot of my ancestors lived\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "52 ancestors in 52 weeks"","block_context":{"text":"52 ancestors in 52 weeks","link":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/category\/genealogy-general\/52-ancestors-in-52-weeks\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hiking.png?fit=800%2C800&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hiking.png?fit=800%2C800&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hiking.png?fit=800%2C800&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/hiking.png?fit=800%2C800&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":6100,"url":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/52ancestors-favourite-name\/","url_meta":{"origin":7530,"position":5},"title":"#52ancestors – Favourite name","author":"Martin Roe Eidhammer","date":"February 11, 2018","format":false,"excerpt":"This is my contribution to this week's 52 ancestors in\u00a0 52 weeks challenge - Favourite name My grandmother always went by the name of Paula. Her real name though was Pauline Marie. I think this is such a beautiful name. 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