{"id":7097,"date":"2018-11-13T09:14:00","date_gmt":"2018-11-13T08:14:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/?p=7097"},"modified":"2020-01-06T15:08:51","modified_gmt":"2020-01-06T14:08:51","slug":"a-visit-from-the-bishop","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/a-visit-from-the-bishop\/","title":{"rendered":"A visit from the bishop"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was recently asked to help interpret\u00a0a church record.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>This question appeared in the Facebook group\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/1763930297197882\/?ref=group_header\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Norwegian-American Genealogy Help Here<\/a>.\u00a0\u00a0The record in question was from Strinda parish in S\u00f8r-Tr\u00f8ndelag county. It showed the girl Nikoline Birgithe Grinsdatter leaving the parish bound for America.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the actual record:<\/p>\n<p>SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerb\u00f8ker og f\u00f8dselsregistre &#8211; S\u00f8r-Tr\u00f8ndelag, 606\/L0294: Parish register (official) no. 606A09, 1878-1886, p. 445<br \/>\nQuick link: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.digitalarkivet.no\/kb20070420640326\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.digitalarkivet.no\/kb20070420640326<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The record gave the usual information; Nikoline&#8217;s year of birth and a statement that the minister had given her papers showing her baptism and confirmation dates.<\/p>\n<p>So far, so good, but the record also seemed to include a note signed by A. Grimelund.\u00a0<em>(You can hover the mouse over the picture to zoom in)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"7098\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/a-visit-from-the-bishop\/a-grimelund\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/A-Grimelund.jpg?fit=553%2C104&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"553,104\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"A Grimelund\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/A-Grimelund.jpg?fit=553%2C104&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-7098 zoooom\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/A-Grimelund.jpg?resize=740%2C139&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"740\" height=\"139\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/A-Grimelund.jpg?w=553&amp;ssl=1 553w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/A-Grimelund.jpg?resize=300%2C56&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 740px) 100vw, 740px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>While I have some experience in reading the old handwritten records, I readily admit that I wasn&#8217;t able to pick this right off the paper.<\/p>\n<p>Another person in the group mentioned that <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Andreas_Grimelund\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Andreas Grimelund<\/a> was the bishop of Nidaros, the diocese Strinda parish belong to. This made\u00a0me think of the Norwegian concept of &#8220;Bispevisitas&#8221;.\u00a0 This is visits the bishop is required to take in the parishes of his diocese to check the conditions.<\/p>\n<p>The regular visits by the bishop were put in place by King Christian 5&#8217;s Norwegian law from 1687. During these visits, the bishop was to inspect the condition in the congregation. He was to examine the youth to see if their education was adequate. In addition, the bishop was required to inspect the minister&#8217;s execution of his office. In connection with this, he was to check that the church records were properly kept.<\/p>\n<p>With this in mind, I went back to the record. Here I found the same note in all the sections of the church book. This is the reason that I like to have the link to the actual source when I am asked for help. (See <a href=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/link-to-the-actual-source-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Link to the actual source<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Looking at the note I decided that it had to say &#8220;Seet\u00a0ved\u00a0Visitatsen\u00a0i 1883 den 31 August. A Grimelund&#8221;. This translates to &#8220;Viewed at the Bishop visitation&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7102\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7102\" style=\"width: 128px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"7102\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/a-visit-from-the-bishop\/gothic-letter-j\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Gothic-letter-J.jpg?fit=128%2C157&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"128,157\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Gothic letter J\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Gothic-letter-J.jpg?fit=128%2C157&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-7102 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Gothic-letter-J.jpg?resize=128%2C157&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"128\" height=\"157\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7102\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gothic capital letter J<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>While Grimelund probably was a good bishop, his handwriting was not the best. I was at first thrown off by the first letter thinking this was the letter J.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7101\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7101\" style=\"width: 116px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"7101\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/a-visit-from-the-bishop\/gothic-letter-s\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Gothic-letter-S.jpg?fit=116%2C119&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"116,119\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Gothic letter S\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Gothic-letter-S.jpg?fit=116%2C119&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-7101 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Gothic-letter-S.jpg?resize=116%2C119&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"116\" height=\"119\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7101\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gothic capital letter S<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>With the background information\u00a0in mind, I decided that it had to be the letter S<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In this case, we see that the note had nothing to do with Nikoline.<\/p>\n<p>What we can take away from this is the\u00a0fact that there sometimes are notes or scribblings in the records that don&#8217;t necessarily have something to do with the person we look for. After the church\u00a0book revision in 1812, the bishop most commonly used to record his visitations and sign on blank pages at the end of the book. We can see an example of this from Norddal parish in M\u00f8re og\u00a0Romsdal, where several visitations are recorded:<\/p>\n<p>SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerb\u00f8ker og f\u00f8dselsregistre &#8211; M\u00f8re og Romsdal, 517\/L0221: Parish register (official) no. 517A01, 1827-1858<br \/>\nQuick link: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.digitalarkivet.no\/kb20070323680568\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.digitalarkivet.no\/kb20070323680568<\/a><br \/>\nSource:<\/p>\n<p><em>BISPEVISTAS Forslag til nytt\u00a0visitasreglement for Den norske kirke\u00a0<\/em>Utredning fra et utvalg oppnevnt av Bispem\u00f8te. 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