{"id":5781,"date":"2018-01-16T15:23:26","date_gmt":"2018-01-16T14:23:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/?p=5781"},"modified":"2018-01-14T15:23:45","modified_gmt":"2018-01-14T14:23:45","slug":"do-your-own-ting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/do-your-own-ting\/","title":{"rendered":"Do Your Own Ting!\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"

Here is another article from Dean Huseby’s Norwegian American Cousin Connections newsletter<\/p>\n

Featured photo: An early Norwegian court Frostatinget had its seat at\u00a0Tinghaugen<\/b>\u00a0in\u00a0Frosta\u00a0municipality in the\u00a0county\u00a0of\u00a0Nord-Tr\u00f8ndelag<\/span><\/em>\u00a0 By Stig Morten Skj\u00e6ran (Own work) [CC BY-SA 3.0<\/a>], via Wikimedia Commons<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n

By Dean Huseby<\/h6>\n

One has to be careful when one uses an English word because it may have a whole different meaning in another language. During the 1960s and 1970s, there was a prevailing attitude among the young people in America and that was \u201cdo your own thing.\u201d It expressed an independent, anti-establishment attitude that challenged the very foundations of our culture. But it was very interesting when I found out the Norwegian \u201cTing\u201d (thing) had the opposite meaning which was to establish order during ancient Viking times and today.<\/p>\n

During the Viking and pre-Viking eras, Norway and all of Scandinavia was divided into many small kingdoms called \u201cfylkis\u201d. All free people in these kingdoms would assemble together to enact laws and administer justice. These assemblies were called \u201cTings\u201d or \u201cThings\u201d in English. Tings were necessary to maintain order within the various kingdoms and dealt with vital issues such as tribal feuds and social injustice. No public action in Viking society could be undertaken without conducting a Ting. Any free person whether wealthy or peasant was subject to the action of the Ting and had an equal voice in determining that action. The only non-voting members of society were slaves who had been captured during the raids. The tribal chiefs, even the kings, were elected at the Ting and therefore prevented from \u201cdoing their own thing.\u201d It was truly power to the people. Democratic institutions have deep roots in Norway.<\/p>\n

Today, the Norwegian Parliament is called Storting, or Great Thing. Up until 2007, the two chambers of the Storting were called Lagting (Thing of Law) and Odelsting (Thing of the Lords) which were patterned after the American Senate and House of Representatives. (Now they have but one chamber. Perhaps with the current conflict between our Senate and House, it might be something for us to consider, but it is unlikely to ever happen.) There is evidence of Tings throughout the areas wherever Viking influence was felt.<\/p>\n

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Stortinget Oslo – The Parlament. By Andreas Haldorsen (Own work) [CC BY-SA 4.0<\/a>], via Wikimedia Commons<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n
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The Oseberg Ship prow.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

In ancient times, Tings were often conducted annually in a specific location such as an open field. As Norway became one kingdom, the most important meeting place for Tings was in T\u00f8nsberg, considered to be the oldest existing town in Scandinavia. It is located 50 miles (80 km.) southwest of Oslo. It was here that the famous Oseberg Viking ship was unearthed, now housed in the Viking Ship Museum in Oslo. It is also believed to be the grave of Queen \u00c5sa Haraldsdottir of Agder (an ancestor on the Eide side of our family) and grandmother of King Harold Fairhair. It became the place where ancient kings were crowned, so Tings were very much a part of this town. Harold is thought to have conducted the first Ting in Gulen, Norway, just south of the Sognefjord.<\/p>\n

Oftentimes several chiefs could be elected to govern an area. These men were given the title of \u201cherse\u201d. However when only one chief was elected, they were given the title of \u201cjarl\u201d (earl) or king. The king was responsible for leading the army into war, along with performing judicial functions. But at least in the early days, the king was self-supported, not tax supported. His son usually was chosen to succeed him; however, that was not automatic. The right of succession still had to be ratified by the people at the Ting. If the people did not like\u00a0that choice, the son would not become king. Their vote was the final word. It is interesting to\u00a0note that one of my ancestors, King Olof Sk\u00f6tkonung of Sweden was deposed by a Ting.\u00a0 The people had become unhappy with his conversion to Christianity.\u00a0Justice was administered by judges or lagmen. The lagmen had to memorize every law\u00a0passed by the Ting, because there was no written language. They then had to interpret, explain\u00a0and administer the laws. The lagman, along with the chief or king, presided over the Ting.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Eidsivating was the name of one of the original Norwegian popular assemblies or Tings. Historically it was the site of court and assembly for the eastern parts of Norway. Photo: Harry Wad [CC BY 2.5<\/a> or CC BY 2.5<\/a>], via Wikimedia Commons<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>Except for premeditated murder, all crimes could be forgiven by payment of fines. If a man\u00a0intentionally murdered someone, he would be declared an assassin. His property would be\u00a0confiscated and he could be killed by anyone who wished to do so.\u00a0The king did have some free men in his service, who had sworn allegiance to him in war\u00a0and in peace. These men were called hirdmen. Those who proved themselves to be brave and\u00a0faithful often received high positions of trust. They were called lendmen (liegemen), or\u00a0managers of the king\u2019s estates.\u00a0In the early Viking days, the Ting only had jurisdiction over the individual kingdom, not\u00a0the ones surrounding it. War between the various tribes or kingdoms was common and\u00a0actually encouraged. Vikings had a firm religious belief that those who died of sickness or old\u00a0age would sink down into the dark abode of Hel (Helheim), and that only the brave men who\u00a0fell in battle would be invited to the feasts in Odin\u2019s Hall. Sometimes the earls or kings would\u00a0make war on their neighbors, just to give their warriors a chance for Odin\u2019s Hall.<\/p>\n

I guess there is actually a correlation between \u201cDoing your Thing\u201d in the 1970s in\u00a0America and the Viking days where they \u201cdid their own Ting\u201d. Those who ruled in Viking times\u00a0were subject to the prevailing will of the people and even kings could be removed if the Ting\u00a0did not approve. In the 1970s, those opposed to the Vietnam War and the establishment\u00a0conducted a Ting so the voice of the people could be heard. The outcome was that President\u00a0Nixon was removed from office and order was restored. However, \u201cdoing their own thing\u201d is\u00a0often more associated with disorder and doing what made one feel good than creating order
\nout of chaos.<\/p>\n

This article is from Dean Huseby\u2019s newsletter\u00a0Norwegian & American Cousin Connections.\u00a0<\/strong>If you would like to receive Deans\u2019s articles you can subscribe to his email list by using the address below. (The email address is presented as a graphic to prevent it from spamming. You will have to write the address into your emailreader)<\/em><\/p>\n

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