{"id":5391,"date":"2017-11-14T18:00:52","date_gmt":"2017-11-14T17:00:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/?p=5391"},"modified":"2017-11-11T17:53:37","modified_gmt":"2017-11-11T16:53:37","slug":"search-the-whole-page","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/search-the-whole-page\/","title":{"rendered":"Search the whole page"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It is easy to get lost in the old church records.<!--more--><\/p>\n<div class=\"su-spacer\" style=\"height:20px\"><\/div>\n<p>We humans, and I believe many animals tend to look for patterns around us. When we believe we have found a pattern we expect it to be repeated and we act accordingly.<\/p>\n<p>In 1812 the churchbooks with pre-printed forms were introduced in Norway. Before this the churchbooks were written pretty much as each minister saw fit. It can be hard to search these and I often tell people to look for patterns.<\/p>\n<p>I was looking for the birth record of Beret Sivertsdatter. I knew she was born around 1790. I started out <a href=\"https:\/\/media.digitalarkivet.no\/view\/16053\/61\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">at the beginning of 1789 in the church records for Bols\u00f8y parish<\/a>. I was delighted as I discovered that the minister had split the page in two and recorded boys \u2192 &#8220;drengeb\u00f8rn&#8221; on the left side and girls \u2192 &#8220;pigeb\u00f8rn&#8221; on the right side. So I searched through the right side of each page hoping to find Beret. It turned out that each local parish were recorded in separate sections so the year kept jumping back and forth. When I had searched 1789 through 1791 I had still no hits.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"5392\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/search-the-whole-page\/screen-shot-10-28-17-at-02-30-pm\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Screen-Shot-10-28-17-at-02.30-PM.png?fit=1024%2C473&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,473\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Screen Shot 10-28-17 at 02.30 PM\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Screen-Shot-10-28-17-at-02.30-PM.png?fit=800%2C370&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5392\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Screen-Shot-10-28-17-at-02.30-PM.png?resize=800%2C370&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"370\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Screen-Shot-10-28-17-at-02.30-PM.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Screen-Shot-10-28-17-at-02.30-PM.png?resize=300%2C139&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Screen-Shot-10-28-17-at-02.30-PM.png?resize=768%2C355&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I then started to look a little closer. It turns out that the minister kept the pattern with boys recorded on the left side and girls on the right side of the page from 1759 through 1793 BUT, one page in 1790, probably due to a larger number of girls being born, he recorded girls on both the left and right side. That is where I found Beret baptised on Feria 2, Pentecost. <a href=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/index.php\/2016\/04\/19\/moveable-feastdays-in-norway\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">In 1790 this was May 24.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>We can see that the minister have initially written boys \u2192 &#8220;drengeb\u00f8rn&#8221;, but have changed it to spell girls \u2192 &#8220;pigeb\u00f8rn&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"5393\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/search-the-whole-page\/screen-shot-10-28-17-at-02-29-pm\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Screen-Shot-10-28-17-at-02.29-PM.png?fit=1024%2C473&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,473\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Screen Shot 10-28-17 at 02.29 PM\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Screen-Shot-10-28-17-at-02.29-PM.png?fit=800%2C370&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-5393\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Screen-Shot-10-28-17-at-02.29-PM.png?resize=800%2C370&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"370\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Screen-Shot-10-28-17-at-02.29-PM.png?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Screen-Shot-10-28-17-at-02.29-PM.png?resize=300%2C139&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Screen-Shot-10-28-17-at-02.29-PM.png?resize=768%2C355&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>It is hard to try to give any general advice on reading the pre 1812 church records. I believe I will still be looking for patterns, as these in many cases helps us searching these records. My lesson learned from this is to be more observant when the pattern change.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It is easy to get lost in the old church records.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":5482,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"colormag_page_container_layout":"default_layout","colormag_page_sidebar_layout":"default_layout","nf_dc_page":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"_wpscppro_dont_share_socialmedia":false,"_wpscppro_custom_social_share_image":0,"_facebook_share_type":"","_twitter_share_type":"","_linkedin_share_type":"","_pinterest_share_type":"","_linkedin_share_type_page":"","_instagram_share_type":"","_medium_share_type":"","_threads_share_type":"","_google_business_share_type":"","_selected_social_profile":[],"_wpsp_enable_custom_social_template":false,"_wpsp_social_scheduling":{"enabled":false,"datetime":null,"platforms":[],"status":"template_only","dateOption":"today","timeOption":"now","customDays":"","customHours":"","customDate":"","customTime":"","schedulingType":"absolute"},"_wpsp_active_default_template":true},"categories":[9,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5391","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-norwegian-sources","category-genealogy-general"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.0 (Yoast SEO v27.4) - 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Here is a problem I was asked to look into on a genealogy group on Facebook In 1808 Ingebrich, the son of Thomas Mikelsen and Britte Ingebrictsdatter Skjeggedal was baptized in Kinsarvik parish, Hordaland county, Norway. 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Some time ago I realized that some genealogists limited their search to the localparish where their ancestors lived. Likewise, they dismissed promising hits in other localparishes. 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In some cases, when the In-Migration Page is really an Out-Migration Page, it can create confusion for researchers. What looks neat and orderly in a printed form can\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Emigration&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Emigration","link":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/category\/emigration\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/migrasjonslister-Kirkebok.jpg?fit=486%2C400&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":7808,"url":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/quick-tips-when-the-minister-mess-up\/","url_meta":{"origin":5391,"position":4},"title":"Quick tips: When the minister mess up","author":"Martin Roe Eidhammer","date":"July 1, 2019","format":false,"excerpt":"In some church books, a seemingly neat system can be messed up badly. We are all happy when we find a neat layout in church books, where the genders are separated in different sections within the different parts of the book. 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