{"id":2595,"date":"2016-11-15T20:03:59","date_gmt":"2016-11-15T19:03:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/?p=2595"},"modified":"2016-11-16T15:23:40","modified_gmt":"2016-11-16T14:23:40","slug":"norway-three-dates-of-death","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/norway-three-dates-of-death\/","title":{"rendered":"Norway: Three dates of death"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When we look at death records in Norway, we may encounter three different dates. This may be a little confusing.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>(Illustration: Erik Werenskiold &#8220;Peasant funeral&#8221; \u00a0[Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons)<\/p>\n<p>The first date is called<strong> D\u00f8dsdag\/D\u00f8ds datum.\u00a0<\/strong>This is the date when the person passed away. In the older church books the actual death date may not be recorded.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Begravelsesdag\u00a0<\/strong>indicates the day the person is interred. According to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hf.uio.no\/iakh\/forskning\/prosjekter\/tingbok\/kilder\/schou\/sider\/k231.html\">royal decree from Nov. 7. 1682<\/a>, the funeral had to take place within 8 days after the passing. During winter the burial sometimes took place several months after the passing. This could happend in remote areas and areas with heavily frozen ground (Bratrein 1988:38). In localparishes distant from the rectory, the burial often took place without a minister present (Teigen 2013). The ceremony was held by the sexton or another local lay person, who read from the bible, and lead the prayer and singing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jordfestelse\/Jordp\u00e5kasting\u00a0<\/strong>is the final committals performed by the grave. This ritual had to be performed by a ordained minister. If the burial took place without a minister present, the minister would perform this ritual the next time he visited the local parish to hold a service (Bratrein 1988:39). \u00a0The word &#8220;jordp\u00e5kastelse&#8221; refers to the three scoops of earth that is placed on the coffin when reciting the &#8220;Earth to earth&#8230;.&#8221; text. \u00a0We can see the churchrecord below, where the minister on New Year&#8217;s day has performed committals for 5 persons who passed away during the month of December. (Records from before 1812)<br \/>\n<img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3317\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/norway-three-dates-of-death\/veoy-jord-pakastelse-1803\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ve%C3%B8y-jord-p%C3%A5kastelse-1803.jpg?fit=1024%2C543&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,543\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"veoy-jord-pakastelse-1803\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ve%C3%B8y-jord-p%C3%A5kastelse-1803.jpg?fit=800%2C424&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3317\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ve%C3%B8y-jord-p%C3%A5kastelse-1803.jpg?resize=800%2C424&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"veoy-jord-pakastelse-1803\" width=\"800\" height=\"424\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ve%C3%B8y-jord-p%C3%A5kastelse-1803.jpg?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ve%C3%B8y-jord-p%C3%A5kastelse-1803.jpg?resize=300%2C159&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ve%C3%B8y-jord-p%C3%A5kastelse-1803.jpg?resize=768%2C407&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3318\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/norway-three-dates-of-death\/veoy-jordpaaka-1846\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ve%C3%B8y-jordpaaka-1846.jpg?fit=344%2C360&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"344,360\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"veoy-jordpaaka-1846\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ve%C3%B8y-jordpaaka-1846.jpg?fit=344%2C360&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3318 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ve%C3%B8y-jordpaaka-1846.jpg?resize=344%2C360&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"veoy-jordpaaka-1846\" width=\"344\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ve%C3%B8y-jordpaaka-1846.jpg?w=344&amp;ssl=1 344w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ve%C3%B8y-jordpaaka-1846.jpg?resize=287%2C300&amp;ssl=1 287w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 344px) 100vw, 344px\" \/>In the picture to the right we see the the reported death date August 6th. The burial day is August 12th. Here the minister has added &#8220;jordpaakast&#8221; September 17th. (1812 church book revision)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3316\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/norway-three-dates-of-death\/dolm-sogn-1902\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Dolm-sogn-1902.jpg?fit=405%2C387&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"405,387\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"dolm-sogn-1902\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Dolm-sogn-1902.jpg?fit=405%2C387&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-3316 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Dolm-sogn-1902.jpg?resize=337%2C322&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"dolm-sogn-1902\" width=\"337\" height=\"322\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Dolm-sogn-1902.jpg?w=405&amp;ssl=1 405w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Dolm-sogn-1902.jpg?resize=300%2C287&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 337px) 100vw, 337px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>In this picture we see a record from 1902 where date of death (D\u00f8dsdatum), burial (Begravet) and final committals (jordf\u00e6stet) has got separate columns.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I usually record the burial date, if known, in my genealogy software. If the church record show the date of the final committals, and the burial date is missing I record the date of the committals in the &#8220;burial date field&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"3321\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/norway-three-dates-of-death\/img_1983-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_1983-2.jpg?fit=540%2C228&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"540,228\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;5.6&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;MARTIN ROE EIDHAMMER&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 70D&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1469204568&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;ALL RIGHTS RESERVED&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;18&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;320&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.003125&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"img_1983-2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Brickwalls&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_1983-2.jpg?fit=540%2C228&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3321\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_1983-2.jpg?resize=540%2C228&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"img_1983-2\" width=\"540\" height=\"228\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_1983-2.jpg?w=540&amp;ssl=1 540w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/IMG_1983-2.jpg?resize=300%2C127&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Sources:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hf.uio.no\/iakh\/forskning\/prosjekter\/tingbok\/kilder\/schou\/sider\/k231.html\">Forordning om Begravelser Nov 7. 1682<\/a><\/p>\n<p>H\u00e5vard Dahl Bratrein, &#8220;Den kristne begravelse&#8221; in\u00a0<em>Ottar &#8220;-d\u00f8den skal du lide&#8221; \u00a01 (1988)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Arild Teigen: <a href=\"https:\/\/fronhistorielag.com\/2013\/08\/16\/efter-doden-en-sommelig-begravelse\/\">Efter d\u00f8den en s\u00f8mmelig begravelse<\/a>\u00a0Fron Historielag 2013<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When we look at death records in Norway, we may encounter three different dates. 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