{"id":249,"date":"2016-01-28T17:30:16","date_gmt":"2016-01-28T16:30:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/?p=249"},"modified":"2023-02-01T21:49:54","modified_gmt":"2023-02-01T19:49:54","slug":"the-lost-symbols","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/the-lost-symbols\/","title":{"rendered":"The lost symbol(s)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>What has Dan brown\u2019s book got to do with Norwegian genealogy?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>As insignificant it may seem, it can make a lot of difference in your search for family.<\/p>\n<p>The problem was made clear to me some time ago when I was contacted by a lady from the USA. She was looking for her ancestors in Norway and could tell me that her Great grandfather named \u201cso and so\u201d was born in Ore parish in Vest-Agder. <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Vest-Agder\">Vest-Agder <\/a>is a county\u00a0situated in the southern part of Norway. Ore is a place in Vest-Agder, all right. It is in the municipality of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Farsund\">Farsund<\/a>. So far so good!<\/p>\n<p>It just so happened that in this particular case, I recognized the part of the person\u2019s name that told what farm he came from. You may want to read my article about <a href=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/norwegian-naming\/\">Norwegian names<\/a>. This was the name of a farm that is situated in what is now the municipality of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gjemnes\">Gjemnes<\/a> in the county where I live; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/M%C3%B8re_og_Romsdal\">M\u00f8re og Romsdal<\/a>. In this municipality, there is a parish named <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/%C3%98re,_Norway\">\u00d8re<\/a>. I guess you already see my point. Here the \u00d8 was \u201clost in translation\u201d and replaced with an O. The lady that contacted me got her information at an online database. This just to tell you that you should check and double-check the information you find.<\/p>\n<p>When \u201ctranslated\u201d to English Norwegian names lost the \u00c6 \u00d8 and \u00c5. The \u00c6 was often changed to \u201cae\u201d, the \u00d8 to \u201co\u201d and sometimes to \u201coe\u201d the \u00c5 to \u201ca\u201d and sometimes \u201caa\u201d. Earlier the \u00c5 was written with two A\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>Just to look at a couple of examples. The Norwegian name \u00c5rv\u00e5g may look like this in English: Arvag, Aarvaag. Here in Molde where I live there is a place (farm) called \u00c5r\u00f8. I guess that may make Aro or Aroe. B\u00f8 may have been changed to Bo or Boe.<\/p>\n<p>The rule to avoid these misunderstandings is that there is no rule. You just need to pay extra attention if you are dealing with names that have these letters in them<\/p>\n<p>So what do these strange letters sound like? The \u00c6 sounds like the A in the English words &#8220;crash&#8221; or &#8220;stab&#8221;. \u00d8 as the U in the English word &#8220;surf&#8221;. \u00c5 as the O in the English word &#8220;bored&#8221;.<br \/>\nLets practice:<br \/>\nWhen your computer locks up and you lose the last hour of work you go:<strong>\u00c6\u00c6\u00c6\u00c6\u00c6\u00c6\u00c6\u00c6\u00c6\u00c6\u00c6!!!!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Danish_and_Norwegian_alphabet\">Wikipedia on Norwegian alphabet<\/a><\/p>\n<h6>You can write the letters on your English keyboard<\/h6>\n<p>On a PC<br \/>\nPut the NUM Lock On<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_251\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-251\" style=\"width: 290px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"251\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/martinroe.com\/blog\/the-lost-symbols\/norwkeyboard\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Norwkeyboard-e1453988139862.jpg?fit=210%2C155&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"210,155\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;5.6&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;unknown&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS 350D DIGITAL&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1265655620&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;55&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.016666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Norwkeyboard\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Three extra letters&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Norwkeyboard-e1453988139862.jpg?fit=210%2C155&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-251\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/martinroe.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Norwkeyboard.jpg?resize=290%2C214&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Norwegian keyboard\" width=\"290\" height=\"214\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-251\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Three extra letters<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Hold down the Alt Key and type the numbers on the Number Pad:<\/p>\n<p>Alt 0198 = \u00c6\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Alt 0230 = \u00e6<br \/>\nAlt 0216 = \u00d8 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 Alt 0248 = \u00f8<br \/>\nAlt 0197 = \u00c5 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 Alt 0229 = \u00e5<\/p>\n<p>You can also change your keyboard settings to produce Norwegian letters. This is quite easy. On the control panel, check Regional and Language Options. Then check the keyboard and languages tab.<\/p>\n<p>On a Mac:<\/p>\n<p>Simultaneousely press the following key combinations:<\/p>\n<p>Shift+Option+'(apostrophe key) = \u00c6<br \/>\nShift+Option+O = \u00d8<br \/>\nShift+Option+A = \u00c5<br \/>\nOption+&#8217; (apostrophe key) = \u00e6<br \/>\nOption+O = \u00f8<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><br \/>\nOption+A = \u00e5<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What has Dan brown\u2019s book got to do with Norwegian genealogy? 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